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Well, good luck with that, especially considering how Brexit is a massive power grab by Westminster (including what is perceived as taking some powers away from the devolved governments) and how they keep banging on about sovereignty and taking back control and negotiating as equals. When the UK wants sovereignty and take back control from the EU that's good, but when Scotland wants the same from the UK that's bad? You've shot yourselves in the foot there......

Also, I don't see why/how the EU should reject membership to an independent Scotland, provided it fulfils all the criteria (which could get interesting, as at the moment the SNP wants to keep the £, which probably won't fly with the EU. But then again, that can change).
Continuing to dismiss Scottish calls for another independence vote outright could be “counterproductive,” the memo said. Possible counter-measures include London handing more power to Edinburgh and ratifying a new settlement through a popular vote, and pressuring the European Union to nix the idea of Scotland rejoining the bloc as an independent country.
U.K.’s Tories Start War Gaming to Stop Scottish Independence

#UK #EU #Scotland #Brexit #independence #politics #Tories #Conservatives #ThePledge
 
The big difference of course that the poll tax was a bit easier to back out of than Brexit will be. The damage Brexit already has done and will continue to do will to an extent be irreversible, some will take many years to fix and only some are truly reversible.

https://twitter.com/FD/status/1318180601988587520

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #polltax #Tories #Conservatives #damage
 
So in a nutshell we're going to get a Brexit that brings no tangible benefit to anyone, makes everyone unhappy, yet keeps the Tories in power and able to continue to ruin the country. All because people thought they knew what they were voting for, while not actually knowing anything. And not even because of an ideology, just because of a method.

The indivisibility of the 52% as method in Brexit, even now

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tories #power #fascism #method #ideology
The indivisibility of the 52% as method in Brexit, even now
 
Cor blimey, how tacky can you get?

'Got Brexit Done': Tory party sells £12 tea towel in celebration

PS: it says "PROUDLY printed in Britain" (the all caps is how they wrote it, not from me). I wouldn't be surprised if over the next few days we find that while may be the printing was done in the UK the underlying products come from some cheap factory in China. Or an EU country.

#Brexit #UK #politics #Tories #GotBrexitDone #tacky #ripoff
 
An important appeal and call to action: Make the Brexiteers own it. All the pain and suffering they will bring on to the country now is theirs. Let them not get away with any excuses or attempts to shift the blame. They won. So they own it. Every single bit of it.

Week in Review: Make them own it

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #YouWonGetOverIt #Tories #Conservatives #YouWonItYouOwnIt
 
I doubt both. Johnson won't say a word and it won't be the end of the conservatives. At least not as long as Labour and Libdem are as useless as they are now.

https://twitter.com/cliodiaspora/status/1207437918068973574?s=19

#Brexit #UK #politics #Tories #conservatives #Labour #LibDems #parties

Twitter: Prof Tanja Bueltmann on Twitter (Prof Tanja Bueltmann)

 
And then they are surprised that people are losing trust into politics, politicians and parties? Who thought this was a good idea? Who signed this off?

Tories pretend to be factchecking service during leaders' debate

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tories #misinformation #lies #factcheck #fake #mislead
 
Marina about the upcoming "The People" vs "The Establishment/Elites" election:

Johnson, Corbyn and Farage are all for ‘the people’ against ‘the elite’. This could end badly

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #election #generalelection #thepeople #theestablishment #theelites #Tories #Labour
 
Looks like the Brexiteers are pulling out Project Fear. Big time. £10 trillion is around 4-5 times the entire British economy. Which is going to disappear over night. Yeah, right....

https://twitter.com/DmitryOpines/status/1189936533803012096?s=19

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #ProjectFear #lies #propaganda #Economy #Tories #Labour

Twitter: Dmitry Grozoubinski on Twitter (Dmitry Grozoubinski)

 
Gnihihihihihihihihihi....

https://twitter.com/ByDonkeys/status/1189886692657905664?s=19

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Halloween #BorisJohnson #Tories #VoteLeave

Twitter: Led By Donkeys on Twitter (Led By Donkeys)

 
I've just read that the Tories have started to campaign with the hashtag #BritainDeservesBetter. May be I'm missing something, but haven't they been in power for almost the whole last decade? Surely everything should be just fine and dandy? Or are they admitting that they have failed? Is this classic Dom genius at work again?

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #election #Tories #generalelection #slogan #BritainDeservesBetter
 
And yet the Tories proclaim to be the party of business and the economy.. Then why are they so desperate to make the country poorer?

Brexit deal means ‘£70bn hit to UK by 2029'

#brexit #UK #EU #politics #economy #poorer #Tories
 
So Boris Johnson gets the election he so desperately wanted. And by doing that he actually throws the Remainers a lifeline. Many think the Tories will easily win this election. While it is possible that he wins it I think there's still a good chance that he'll rue the decision to go after an election instead of sitting it out and somehow pushing through his WA. He was quite close. Now if the Remainers get their act together and Boris Johnson messes up a few times (plenty of opportunities for him to do that) there could very well be another hung parliament (among other reasons because there's a good chance the old two party system is dead). There could even be "grand coalition" of Labour, LibDems and SNP as almost certainly nobody will enter a coalition with the Tories if they don't get a majority.

This could get very interesting. And very very nasty.

Election 2019: Remainers have one last chance

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #election #generalelection #vote #voting #Tories #Labour #LibDems #SNP #party
 
A pessimistic but I fear also realistic view of the UK (or better rUK) should Boris Johnson really #GetBrexitDone (or better #GetBrexitStarted as the hashtag should really be…)

BREXIT: WHAT HAPPENS IN THE LONG TERM?

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #BorisJohnson #decline #Tories #Labour
 
Not that the Brexiteers will care (much), as they will be least impacted. They might even gain. And don't care about the general population.

Boris Johnson’s Brexit deal would make people worse off than Theresa May’s | Anand Menon and Jonathan Portes | Opinion | The Guardian

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #economy #business #Tories #deal
 
Will wreck? I'd say no deal will only finish it off. That image is already largely wrecked. I suspect a lot of business leaders haven't forgotten now PM's Boris Johnson's "F*ck Business". Then the millions and millions of pounds the already wasted once and probably wasted again soon on no deal preparation. The chaotic Brexit negotiation by the Tory government, which again has brought business huge amounts of uncertainty and because businesses don't invest much in uncertain times has meant UK productivity has further fallen behind many other nations. The likely additional administrative costs any type of Brexit will bring to UK businesses. The increased difficulty and cost in attracting and hiring international top talent. The diminished (or better, lost) influence the UK will have on EU standards, but will still have to follow when they want to export to the EU. The diminished influence the UK will have on the world stage as it won't have the heft of the EU behind it any more. The lack of investment into education and infrastructure because of largely unnecessary austerity, also leading to the UK falling further behind other nations.

No-deal Brexit will wreck Tories’ reputation as party of business, says Lidington | Politics | The Guardian

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tory #Tories #business #partyofbusiness
 
Dear Daily Mail and The Times advertisers as well as disappointed Tory donors, here's a suggestion for you: Pull your ads from the Daily Mail and The Times and stop your Tory donation. Send the money you saved to the RNLI instead and help them to save lives. Help them to save real people. Mostly in the UK and Ireland, as only a tiny fraction (£2 out of a £100, or £0.20 out of £10!!!!) goes elsewhere.

RNLI donations surge after Tory criticism of its work overseas | Society | The Guardian

#UK #RNLI #charity #Tory #Tories #humanity #savinglives #DailyMail disgrace #Times disgrace
 
Did David Cameron destroy the Tory party in his misguided attempt to rescue it?

It is a widely shared assumption that David Cameron promised and then delivered the EU referendum in an attempt to unite the Tory party. The idea seems to have been to "answer the question once and for all" and then to unite the party behind it. Which has failed spectacularly.

Now Boris Johnson seems to believe the only way to save the Tories and make them electable is to turn them in effect into the Brexit Party / UKIP / whatever vehicle Farage comes up with next. But to do that he has to overtake them on the right. Not to mention that he has expelled 21 members of the more moderate wing of his party.

This will turn off many more moderate voters, not to mention the remain leaning (former?) Tory voters, many won't want the no deal Johnson (or is it actually Cummings?) seems to want. Meaning in order to attract some (he will never get them all) right wing voters he will lose a lot of moderate voters, many probably to the LibDems.

Is this how the Tories as a mainstream party will end?

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tory #Tories #party #DavidCameron #Cameron #BorisJohnson #Johnson
 
Very good article, the Tories better be careful what they unleash, one day it will turn against them....

Brexiteers should be careful about setting fire to the British constitution

#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #constitution #Tories
 
I assume this means the Tories will reject any advances by Nigel Farage's Brexit Party for an election pacts to ensure a Brexit candidate wins in the possible autumn elections. I assume they will also pay no further amounts from the magic money tree to the DUP to buy their support to prop up their minority government.

Did the Lib Dems play 'dirty' to win by-election? - BBC News

#Brexit #UK #EU #Wales #politics #Tories #BrexitParty #DUP #elections #by-election
 
A view on Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson's medium term self destruction of the Tories. It might not happen immediately (if he's lucky), but won't take too long:
This cabinet signals the death of David Cameron’s Tory modernisation project | Ian Birrell | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #BorisJohnson #Tory #Tories #Conservatives #destruction #party
 
Marina on Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson, brilliant as always. Unlike our future under this privileged incompetent amateur.
Held captive by his carers for four weeks, let’s look at Boris Johnson’s best bits | Marina Hyde | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #BorisJohnson #PrimeMinister #Tories
 
Oh dear. We're doomed. Although, if he wins I can claim I once went paintballing with the (future) prime minister. Claim to fame, whoohoo (many many moons ago we worked at the same company and for some teambuilding event went paintballing)
Tory leadership contest: Mark Harper is 12th MP to enter race - BBC News
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #primeminister #leadershipcontest #MarkHarper #Tory #Tories
 
Why the Tories are deluded when they think a new party leader and PM will change everything:
What makes the Tories think that anyone must be better than Mrs May? | Andrew Rawnsley | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tory #Tories #Conservatives #PM
 
Quoting Taylor Swift, teaching me a new word (fratricide), ancient Bacardi ads, it's Marina in top form again:
Exit Theresa May. Stand by for a summer of Tory fratricide and country-shafting | Marina Hyde | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #columnist #leadership #TheresaMay #leadershipcontest #Tory #Tories
 
According to what I gather on Twitter we have:
- a Conservative party in meltdown with a PM locking herself into her office and her spokesperson locked in the toilet
- a populist fake "man of the people" who is stuck on his campaign bus trapped by a bunch of protesters with milkshakes
- a largely invisible opposition leader where I'm not sure what he's doing (or not doing for that matter)
- a recently formed splinter party with a leader offering to resign (or something along those lines)
- made no progress whatsoever since asking for a Brexit extension over a month ago and being asked "Please do not waste this time" when given it

And all this because a certain Mr C thought it was a good idea to gamble with a referendum to keep his divided party together.

What a time to live in....
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tories #Conservatives #Farage #Corbyn #ChangeUK
 
Another nail in the coffin for the Tories. Shift too far to the right and a hard Brexit and they will lose a lot of more liberal remain supporters. Whichever way they go the Tories will lose.
The Tories have forgotten their pro-EU voters. And they’ll pay for it
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #Tories #doom #elections
 
According to Jacob Rees-Mogg the view of less than 100,000 people represents what the country wants. In other words, according to him the Tories are the country. Interesting attitude.
https://twitter.com/Jacob_Rees_Mogg/status/1114500236150550529?s=19
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #NoDeal #JacobReesMogg #Tories

Twitter: Jacob Rees-Mogg on Twitter (Jacob Rees-Mogg)

 
Fascinating (and I think very plausible) read about what might have happened if the result of the EU referendum had been the other way around. In a way we would be in a fairly similar situation now, a deeply divided country with a destroyed political culture. Showing that the real culprit for the mess we're in isn't Theresa May (although she contributed heavily) but David Cameron, who instigated the referendum in the first place for party political reasons, to unite his divided country. And failed abysmally. Quite possibly destroying his party (I think there's a good chance the Tories will split up) and breaking up the UK (I think if they get their referendum there's a good chance Scotland will leave the UK. Northern Ireland being reunited with the Republic of Ireland I think is also possible).
If… A Brexit fable | Inside Story
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #referendum #TheresaMay #DavidCameron #Tories #party #partypolitics #divided
 

House of Commons speaker John Bercow refuses third vote on Brexit Deal


(I guess that he is sick of all the dis-orda in the House, which is the reason why he had to cut it all out. Frankly, I am thankful for this decision - they were in no way ready to ever find a meaningful and final decision if they weren't told to stop. The constructive face in this mess had long ended, it was a dying carcass that didn't want to accept its demise.)
Downing Street was blindsided by the announcement and unable to give a response at its regular afternoon briefing for journalists. “The speaker did not forewarn us of the content of his statement or the fact that he was making one,” May’s spokeswoman said.

“The Leader of the House is playing with her electronic device, and so is the deputy chief whip. I didn’t include him in the category of very senior people in the House but that’s a debatable proposition I readily grant.”
#Uk #UnitedKingdom #Brexit #Britain #GreatBritain #England #HardBrexit #NoDealBrexit #Bercow #JohnBercow #News #Politics #EU #Europe #Europa #EuropeanUnion #TheresaMay #Tory #Tories
 
Some interesting thoughts about the two party system in the UK:
Why binary politics leaves Britain all at sea | David Mitchell | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #politics #Labour #Tories #parties #binary #party
 
One to watch if anything useful develops out of this? Both Tories and Labour I feel are finished. But as of yet there's nothing to replace them. May be one day soon there will be?
Labour and Tory MPs in talks over setting up new centrist party | Politics | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #politics #party #parties #Tories #Labour #centrist #newparty
 
Marina brilliantly scathing about our useless politicians again:
Our destiny is in the hands of Rees-Mogg’s unfinished robot sidekick | Marina Hyde | Opinion | The Guardian
#Brexit #UK #EU #politics #economy #crash #politicians #Tories #Labour #Rees-Mogg #May #Baker #columnist
 
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