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Some older material, from an older campaign, but very well en point: We need more speech, "and more robust dialogue, and that must include the right to insult or to offend". The outrage industry could have much worse consequences than it does in the UK.


FTR, "The Reform Section 5 campaign succeeded in its aim to amend Section 5. The change is now incorporated in Section 57 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 which will come into force on 1 February 2014."

#freespeech #insult #offend #rs5 #law
 
Some older material, from an older campaign, but very well en point: We need more speech, "and more robust dialogue, and that must include the right to insult or to offend". The outrage industry could have much worse consequences than it does in the UK.


FTR, "The Reform Section 5 campaign succeeded in its aim to amend Section 5. The change is now incorporated in Section 57 of the Crime and Courts Act 2013 which will come into force on 1 February 2014."

#freespeech #insult #offend #rs5 #law
 

The Dictum That Truth Always Triumphs Over Persecution Is One of Those Pleasant Falsehoods Which All Experience Refutes

But, indeed, the dictum that truth always triumphs over persecution, is one of those pleasant falsehoods which men repeat after one another till they pass into commonplaces, but which all experience refutes. History teems with instances of truth put down by persecution. If not suppressed forever, it may be thrown back for centuries.

To speak only of religious opinions: the Reformation broke out at least twenty times before Luther, and was put down. Arnold of Brescia was put down. Fra Dolcino was put down. Savonarola was put down. The Albigeois were put down. The Vaudois were put down. The Lollards were put down. The Hussites were put down. Even after the era of Luther, wherever persecution was persisted in, it was successful. In Spain, Italy, Flanders, the Austrian empire, Protestantism was rooted out; and, most likely, would have been so in England, had Queen Mary lived, or Queen Elizabeth died. Persecution has always succeeded, save where the heretics were too strong a party to be effectually persecuted. No reasonable person can doubt that Christianity might have been extirpated in the Roman empire. It spread, and became predominant, because the persecutions were only occasional, lasting but a short time, and separated by long intervals of almost undisturbed propagandism.

It is a piece of idle sentimentality that truth, merely as truth, has any inherent power denied to error, of prevailing against the dungeon and the stake. Men are not more zealous for truth than they often are for error, and a sufficient application of legal or even of social penalties will generally succeed in stopping the propagation of either.

The real advantage which truth has, consists in this, that when an opinion is true, it may be extinguished once, twice, or many times, but in the course of ages there will generally be found persons to rediscover it, until some one of its reappearances falls on a time when from favourable circumstances it escapes persecution until it has made such head as to withstand all subsequent attempts to suppress it."
-- John Stuart Mill, On Liberty https://www.utilitarianism.com/ol/two.html

#JohnStuartMill #Truth #FreeSpeech #OnLiberty
 

The Dictum That Truth Always Triumphs Over Persecution Is One of Those Pleasant Falsehoods Which All Experience Refutes

But, indeed, the dictum that truth always triumphs over persecution, is one of those pleasant falsehoods which men repeat after one another till they pass into commonplaces, but which all experience refutes. History teems with instances of truth put down by persecution. If not suppressed forever, it may be thrown back for centuries.

To speak only of religious opinions: the Reformation broke out at least twenty times before Luther, and was put down. Arnold of Brescia was put down. Fra Dolcino was put down. Savonarola was put down. The Albigeois were put down. The Vaudois were put down. The Lollards were put down. The Hussites were put down. Even after the era of Luther, wherever persecution was persisted in, it was successful. In Spain, Italy, Flanders, the Austrian empire, Protestantism was rooted out; and, most likely, would have been so in England, had Queen Mary lived, or Queen Elizabeth died. Persecution has always succeeded, save where the heretics were too strong a party to be effectually persecuted. No reasonable person can doubt that Christianity might have been extirpated in the Roman empire. It spread, and became predominant, because the persecutions were only occasional, lasting but a short time, and separated by long intervals of almost undisturbed propagandism.

It is a piece of idle sentimentality that truth, merely as truth, has any inherent power denied to error, of prevailing against the dungeon and the stake. Men are not more zealous for truth than they often are for error, and a sufficient application of legal or even of social penalties will generally succeed in stopping the propagation of either.

The real advantage which truth has, consists in this, that when an opinion is true, it may be extinguished once, twice, or many times, but in the course of ages there will generally be found persons to rediscover it, until some one of its reappearances falls on a time when from favourable circumstances it escapes persecution until it has made such head as to withstand all subsequent attempts to suppress it."
-- John Stuart Mill, On Liberty https://www.utilitarianism.com/ol/two.html

#JohnStuartMill #Truth #FreeSpeech #OnLiberty
 

Victory! ICANN Rejects .ORG Sale to Private Equity Firm Ethos Capital


#announcement #icann #freespeech #electronicfrontierfoundation #eff #digitalrights #digitalprivacy
posted by pod_feeder_v2
 

Victory! ICANN Rejects .ORG Sale to Private Equity Firm Ethos Capital


#announcement #icann #freespeech #electronicfrontierfoundation #eff #digitalrights #digitalprivacy
posted by pod_feeder_v2
 
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So I just got #shadowban'ed by #yotube on two answers, each of 'em on the respective pinned comment by #theyoungturks about freedom of speech in two different videos.

Here are the comments that still figure in my youtube app on #android phone like posted. Even the response count includes my comment in the counting.

#Freespeech? #Democracy? #FreedomOfInformation?
harharhar ..
https://youtu.be/zy4XWqytWRs
Google and "freespeech"?
You guys have no idea what that company is standing for at this point and how you yourself, the young turks, are making money of the technics that are used to influence people on a subconcious level.
Youtube pulls 228 million comments in three month with an algorithm by #shadowban.
Need proof?
Here you are:
https://framasphere.org/posts/7649282
(I guess you have people that understand spanisch at hand, otherwise just send this link to #AOC)
Welcome to big brother 2.0
From now on our algorithms will administer the dopamin your behavior deserves.

https://youtu.be/8C7VG6_zDi0
Oha .. I hate to bring it to you Andrew but you will have to rewrite your book.
YT right now is pulling more than 228 million comments and answers to comments by algorithm in three month with shadowban! That's their own data.
Reasons are uncertain as there is no law to open source those algos by default to protect freedom of speech.
The only reasonable way to stop this is decentralization by default and moderation by the respective nodes and the users.
Zuckerberg for example knows that but he can't say it because share holders will fry him.
The problem we are facing is because of jazzing up user numbers without any reasonable way of filtering. You just can't connected the whole world without creating a big f** mess. We don't do it in real life neither.
Prof Dr. Peter Kruse explains that brillantly, you'll find bit's of him here on YT.
I'm sorry that the content of the following link is in spanisch but I'm investigating that algorithm "reverse engeneering" over a month now on spanisch YT commenting on politics democracy and democratic elections:
https://joindiaspora.com/posts/15729340
#google .. be evil
@taz
 
I'm pretty amused to see some of the gang of fascists still whining about how podmins that are "fags", "SJWs" and so on are repressing them, and how they are thinking of leaving Diaspora. And how they have to be on a Russian pod (gee, who would have thunk it?) in order to have "free speech" and by which they mean hate speech.

I sure hope they leave Diaspora. Or at least get themselves segregated to a set of pod(s) that no normal people want to federate with. They sure will be missed. Not! If people that are new to Diaspora join and see these types of assholes - who typically are deceptive in their interests and their posts, only to try to "#redpill" people into their delusional ways - their impression will be quite poor about Diaspora, and that's a real shame. And no, in order for a platform to truly promote free speech, they do not have to tolerate the speech of Nazis.

#Fascists #Diaspora #FreeSpeech #HateSpeech #Conservatives #AltRight #Crybabies #Snowflakes #Republicans #Trump #Spanky #Nazis #Assholes #RkTheory
 
I'm pretty amused to see some of the gang of fascists still whining about how podmins that are "fags", "SJWs" and so on are repressing them, and how they are thinking of leaving Diaspora. And how they have to be on a Russian pod (gee, who would have thunk it?) in order to have "free speech" and by which they mean hate speech.

I sure hope they leave Diaspora. Or at least get themselves segregated to a set of pod(s) that no normal people want to federate with. They sure will be missed. Not! If people that are new to Diaspora join and see these types of assholes - who typically are deceptive in their interests and their posts, only to try to "#redpill" people into their delusional ways - their impression will be quite poor about Diaspora, and that's a real shame. And no, in order for a platform to truly promote free speech, they do not have to tolerate the speech of Nazis.

#Fascists #Diaspora #FreeSpeech #HateSpeech #Conservatives #AltRight #Crybabies #Snowflakes #Republicans #Trump #Spanky #Nazis #Assholes #RkTheory
 
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