Also for the list you propose I just want to be 100% sure, this list is for all pods that are against all those shit people right? Because I’ll happily add my pod to the list.It exists solely to mock the creators and disseminators of the "cuckpods" list. Feel free to add your pod if you think it's funny :D
pff what’s going on, it’s been a few days my stream’s been nothing but nazi, and fascists that later realise they’re not fascists but indeed nazi, and fascist nazi, and then anti-nazi, and then anti-anti-nazi, and then fucking idiotic rebel alliances and what the flying fuck have NPCs to do with all this? are we talking about some game I’m not aware of?Michele this is happening to your brain if you just smoke enough crack. But honestly I'm pretty amused by this soap opera.
But honestly I’m pretty amused by this soap opera.meh. I'd like to see something about #GranblueFantasy, #Mini4WD, #FinalFantasy, #manga (and I don't mean the american-style bra wearing wohoo look at me I'm a slut but no I'm a pikachu cuz my bra is yellow kind of shit), #DylanDog.... that's the kind of stuff that would entertain me. Nazi talk is just boring to tears. Booooo-riiiiing yawn
i am a bit curious, if some not-that-smart-“leftists” will join their nazi-allianceif that's what gets it up for them then by all means. but I wish I had a "ignore tag" button because really, I can only think of very very few things that bore me more than communism vs nazism. fucking retarded rebel alliances for example.
I can only think of very very few things that bore me more than communism vs nazismI wish I lived a life where this was just a boring nuissance to me and not something that threatens my existence and well being.
you and your crazy rebel alliance crapWut?
This stupid stuff is spreading beyond Diaspora nowCan you explain that?
I honestly don’t know what to do about it though.It's a hard problem given Diaspora's design and philosophy. When you go all in on "freedom", you tend to become a safe-haven for people who aren't tolerated elsewhere.
do you find you have to set them on ignore over and over?Yes they jump a lot. I do not have the problem since I don't read tags they spam a lot and so it is sufficient to block only a few of them from time to time. In the recent years they avoided me so it was not too much of a trouble with them directly. (The still harass other people and such I deal with them occasionally)
Also, I wonder if Diaspora doesn’t want to fall into being like Gab or similar, and really off-putting to most people, if more active measures won’t have to be taken.I do not know whats on with Gab but this fear is nothing new. Since they are quite active and jump from pod to pod they are a pain in the ass but in the end they are just 5 (core) guys circle-jerking all day long. In my opinion this is not a mayor "Diaspora is a shittplace" problem but just some clowns thinking they are some kind of anonymous 4chan warrior fascists or something like that. In my opinion the pods should just ban all of them immediately since they are just trolls looking for harassing people but thats not my decision.
These days, they feel emboldened to come out of their Nazi closets and are trying harder than ever to organize and recruit.Why trying to recruit people from Diaspora? Most of them are socially pretty liberal with every kind of economic theory. And to be honest Diaspora is just a tiny subset of the internet full of nerds, freaks, and weird people. Whats the point of "recruiting" 5 of those?
Anyway, if as someone else here ( @Lindsay ) has said, their first impression is having a feed full of fascist garbage - or people that “hide their power level”, then reveal they are fascists later, after all the “cute” pet videos, vegan recipes, anime and other attempts to pretend to be a human, then that cannot be good.Thats why I really like every voice standing up and speaking out against this bullshit. Just keeping quite and letting them do won't change anything, since you are effected by them even if you do not see them, e.g. if they harass your dialog partner till they are leaving.
D* is a great idea, and I enjoy it (obviously), but I don’t think it’s the ultimate replacement to corporate social media. If the dream of “the federation” is going to last, it will need a successor that can build from the ground up with the benefit of hindsight.Did you take a look at Scuttlebutt? I think they do quite a few things better than diaspora.
If I do tell them up front, that will be their first impression no matter what they may see when they actually get on.I wonder how much of a turn-off all the porn is for new users. For every Nazi post there are 100 bot-posted porn images.
@Rosenrot: I looked at it in the fairly early days, and I found it a little too rough around the edges. Mainly, what turned me off was the near inability to search for content. Has it improved? What do they do better than D*?Since it is a more "friend of a friend" approach Nazi minorities (like on Diaspora) will not be as present as on this platform where they are flooding every tag with their shitposts. I didn't look at it for some month now and yes it was still very rough. But I had the feeling it much better represents real world social networks and such has not that tendency to over represent loud groups than these crypto-fascist trolls. What I found quite nice is the set of people there. It's not that much of a "post sharing mentality" but rather discussions and sharing of own creations. I actually just stopped using it since I'm still spending some time here and didn't want to leave the Diaspora people behind.
For every Nazi post there are 100 bot-posted porn images.Lol which tags are you following :D I see nearly no porn at all in my stream. Actually just porn from people resharing it; and thats completely okay for me :)
Ah another downside and reason why I deleted it: It uses a lot of hard drive resources since it stores every post in your stream on your disk.I also recall a major drawback being the lack of portability (i.e. you can only reasonably access it from one device, because all of your data "lives" on that device).
Proud of my doings.Add it to the list!
I really would like to see configurable user and hashtag filters at the pod level, but in away that would enable individual users to edit those filters to customize their own experience.As much as I am for freedom of speech I still think system owners should have complete control over it. First of all servers are not some abstract entities existing in outer space. They have owners, they are hosted somewhere and thus are subject to regulations legal and social. What is acceptable for one place might be not for other. E.g. having swastikas or certain NSFW content published on your server might have legal consequences in some countries.
@Αντισθένης I’m not sure what overriding the policies of the admin would accomplish. If one doesn’t like the policies of an admin, you’re always able to go set up your own node or pod and run it how you like.I guess i was thinking of it in terms analogous to Google's SafeSearch. SafeSearch is the default, but if you want to see explicit potentially offensive nsfw content, then you have the option to disable SafeSearch and go joe freestyle.
I always hear this argument, but looking at the sites that have been added to https://cuckpods.online, there is only one hosted in Germany.This list is meant as a joke and mocks another list of pods who supposedly banned certain users from federating. But anyway I do not think it applies to just legal regulations. I treat pods as clubs. There is a host and guests, together they form a community. Yes, it might be a "safe space" or it might be free-for-all debate arena. If something becomes a problem for community they are in their right to shut the gates. On the other hand everyone is free to choose community to join or start their own.
If something becomes a problem for community they are in their right to shut the gates. On the other hand everyone is free to choose community to join or start their own.I agree, and I did not intend to impose my view on anyone. As I mentioned a few comments ago, I would like to see diaspora* have some kind of flexible way to manage these kind of policies. That's all. Let the podmin decide how to use them. Right now, it's not being done at all, or it's being done inconsistently. that doesn't seem ideal.
Right now, it’s not being done at all, or it’s being done inconsistently. that doesn’t seem ideal.Yes, it seems that inconsistency worsens the issue producing conspiracy theories of "shadow banning" i.e. that admins intentionally try to silently block someone from federating to their pod without anyone noticing.
Yes, it seems that inconsistency worsens the issue producing conspiracy theories of "shadow banning" i.e. that admins intentionally try to silently block someone from federating to their pod without anyone noticing.Well, that is what I did at least. I mean, it's the only way currently on Diaspora to stop content actually arriving to the pod you host. You go into the database and crap out their public key. Since Diaspora never refetches the key (which is a bit bad imho), this stops the payloads they send on the federation level.
Aside from the debatable Freedom of Speech concerns, which i know we are not on agreement on@Αντισθένης: If you're basing your conception of my views on the matter on the hyperbole being spewed by the D*-Nazis, then we may disagree less than you think. In any case, I appreciate your willingness to disagree with me without resorting to histrionics :D
Perhaps it is just a semantic distinction at some level, but in my view, there is a difference between configuring and using the platform to achieve a result and going beyond the platform to achieve a similar result.I went "beyond the platform" to try to block one specific user, but the script I wrote ultimately didn't work as I intended and I stopped using it. Instead, I removed the user's key from my database, which is 100% effective and also a solution promoted by the developers. It's funny, but almost every other federated social platform has built-in tools to do this kind of thing and I don't see anyone screaming bloody murder about it.
Yes, it seems that inconsistency worsens the issue producing conspiracy theories of “shadow banning”@Alexander: For my part, I've never "shadow banned" anyone. I don't believe in it. Despite the accusations that I ban "anyone who disagrees with [me]", I've banned exactly three people ever, and I each time I made a public post explaining who and why. My transparency seems to piss off the haters more than the podmins who simply ban users silently do. Go figure.
Just placing someone on an ignore list wont stop you having to host their content. As a person who pays for hosting that content, I’m not going to host their propaganda if I can choose not to.+1. As best I can distill it, this seems to be their conception of freedom of speech:
Because speech can be used to suppress other speech, the speech maximum is not the zero-regulation point.And comes to the conclusion that in order to have a good and open community on your platform, you need to develop a distinct editorial voice for the platform and police that:
So if you want to have functional policy in the modern age, come up with an editorial voice, and admit that it constitutes a social norm. The value prop of your platform to users is that social norm; embrace it, identify it, advertise it.[...]I only disagree with him in one minor aspect, and that is that the goal is to maximize speech. That's a fine goal for a big centralized platform, but less so for me as operator of a small pod. Free speech is not an absolute right, but has to be weighed against those rights of others that it might intersect with. And in this particular setting, I use rights here in the loosest sense - feeling comfortable on the platform and not being bothered by f***heads is a right, too. So I would always prioritize the agreed upon community standards / editorial voice of my pod over any free speech concerns. But in the end, I think that doesn't really contradict what Yonatan saysand leads to mostly the same conclusions.
So end of long rant: If you want to maximize user engagement, don't be afraid to tell bad actors to piss off.
I would like to see diaspora* have some kind of flexible way to manage these kind of policies.For me, the one thing that could use some technical improvements is being really transparent about any bans.